Some believe we’re seeing a repeat of 2021, when price-to-earnings (P/E) ratios seemed irrelevant and the market was overly optimistic. While the current market does have a feeling of a ridiculous bullish sentiment( caught, cough NVDIA ) , the macroeconomic conditions differ significantly from 2021.
Today, things seem to once again be irrational, I agree to a certain limit . It’s difficult when even stocks like Costco have fan boys attempting to downplay the importance of valuation, P/E since they are ridiculously high, ratios still matter.
HOWEVER. Today is much more different then 2021
Please consider the broader context. For instance, the ongoing geopolitical tensions, including wars, have different implications now than in 2021. The Russia Ukrainian war was the only “invasion” that did not see the market gain some short time after. Every other invasion was a buying opportunity. Why ?
Back in 2021, the Federal Reserve was tightening monetary policy, which restrained the market’s ability to recover from geopolitical tensions, such as the Russia-Ukraine conflict. This time, we are in a much more stable environment, characterized by a decrease in interested rates with a robust American economy, the exact opposite of 2021
- Strong job reports
- Declining interest rates
- Falling inflation
- Invasion signal a buying opportunity the Middle East tensions have had zero impacts.
- Oil is nowhere near as impactful as it once was in its golden days
- Emerging technological advancements related to AI and robotics
These factors contribute to a sense of American economic exceptionalism. So, while it’s natural to be cautious, there are strong reasons to remain optimistic about stock market opportunities.
I believe that the risk of missing out on buying shares outweighs the risk of investing during market dips. Just like the major tech companies have invested heavily in areas like NVIDIA and chips, they ultimately need to deliver profits. However, the real danger lies in not investing at all.
Don’t let fear hold you back from investing
Despite ridiculous P/E’s the risk of not buying outweighs that of buying.
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Stonks only go up, the only DD I need
It’s being compared to 2001, not 2021. Tech bubble vs stimulus package
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkh4A7Bk6a0&t=560s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkh4A7Bk6a0&t=560s)
I don’t understand how people think the market is overvalued. QQQ is maybe 20% above its dec 2021 peak, and that gain is even less due to inflation over those years. Yea its pumped a ton the last year, but Its getting back on track
Rainbow bears just believe that a ‘soft landing’ is a meme and not something actually achievable. It’s like a conspiracy theory where every piece of good news is a lie and the market crash is just around the corner.
Stocks are just designed to transfer wealth from the poor to the wealthy, they will always go up
It’s still a good time to diversify into some measure of fixed income. That was a lot harder of a decision when stocks previously seemed overvalued but fixed income paid zero.
PE 50 for NVDA is not ridiculous. 3 times of this – yeah.
Yes humble regard, continue your “investing” because your logic is foolproof.
There are lots of stocks trading at really attractive valuations. The high-flying ones like NVDA, PLTR, etc are trading at crazy valuations & I’d avoid them – inverse WSB . [https://www.reddit.com/r/ValueInvesting/comments/1fx2crq/tech_value_investor/](https://www.reddit.com/r/ValueInvesting/comments/1fx2crq/tech_value_investor/) contains my picks.
Just cut to the chase and tell us how much your calls have put you in the hole.
You had me at “interested rates”
When fear of missing out is the reason to be in the market for most people … it’s time to get out
This is the attitude that cost me 50% of my port in July/Aug
Let me ask you this.
What happens when the jobs report turns sour.
Inflation takes off again.
Interest rates stay higher for longer.
The war is no longer bullish.
Oil and energy cost go up ( the one that increases the cost of everything else the most).
Not to mention wage gains adding to it.
Is the macro condition still stable and good for these insane PEs?
Does that help justify the price?